tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post9184502721011999718..comments2023-11-05T04:01:05.199-05:00Comments on Phil Wilson's Blog: Oscars and a Biblical RuminationPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-56635669552085140052008-02-27T00:00:00.000-05:002008-02-27T00:00:00.000-05:00Hey all,This is every universalist's favorite C.S....Hey all,<BR/><BR/>This is every universalist's favorite C.S. Lewis quote. Lewis, however, was not a universalist, as his theological writings make clear. <BR/><BR/>Of course, if he was a universalist that wouldn't bother me. I don't think his theology was all that great on a lot of levels, and I have no problems disagreeing with my fellow Anglican (whom I love).<BR/><BR/>Anyway, when I read this part of the Final Battle, it causes me to reflect on that truly important influence on Lewis' life: World War II. The idea of the German solider or officer who is true to his faith while fighting for Hitler is, I believe, more pertinent to Lewis' thoughts in this passage.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954413651635300181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-87284659584849553422008-02-26T03:34:00.000-05:002008-02-26T03:34:00.000-05:00Hi,Interestingly, yesterday another blog I follow ...Hi,<BR/>Interestingly, yesterday another blog I follow had a VERY similar line of discussion. A link was provided to a page that parallels Pauls writings about God with earlier Greek writings about Zeus. Here is the link: http://www.guam.net/home/wresch/stories/R.%20Wresch/BiblePaganQuotes.htmBrian Highthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306357650551548310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-48119653656865838302008-02-25T18:49:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:49:00.000-05:00I have not read the Great Divorce. I am not sayin...I have not read the Great Divorce. I am not saying it wasn't a big deal. I just don't think you can assume that was what he was trying to do.<BR/><BR/>Authors can explore alternative thoughts through their fiction, thoughts they would not espouse as a firm opinion in non-fiction.<BR/><BR/>An example using Lewis is the Space Trilogy. You could assume his opinions on what happened in the Garden of Eden from the parallel story he tells on Venus, but it was fantasizing and exploration of "what if", not trying to subtley express doctrine or philosphy. There it was so fanciful it was not hard to confuse. Maybe with CoN, it just wasn't so easy to discern.<BR/><BR/>If he says something similiar in the Great Divorce, you are not assuming at that point.<BR/><BR/>I still would love to hear Randall commment on your question. That would be entertaining.Tony Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05497055762329338990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-33480507945376228902008-02-25T17:07:00.000-05:002008-02-25T17:07:00.000-05:00Tony, I didn't ask, because it wasn't really germa...Tony, I didn't ask, because it wasn't really germane to the discussion at hand.<BR/><BR/>And as to Lewis, didn't he make some similar points in <B>The Great Divorce</B>? And anyway, that seems like a pretty big deal, even from a fictional standpoint.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-36536403326713008782008-02-25T16:55:00.000-05:002008-02-25T16:55:00.000-05:00I think I remember reading quotes from Lewis that ...I think I remember reading quotes from Lewis that the Chronicles of Narnia were not intended to be theological opinions but they were fantasy--fairy tales meant to entertain.<BR/><BR/>Although certainly he let his Christian views shape the stories, I certainly don't think you can ascribed an opinion of theology to him from those books. Now if he had made some comment similiar in one of the theological, non-fiction books that would be different.<BR/><BR/>I liked your question Phil, but you may stretching quite a bit with Lewis and maybe unfairly to him. I would not want my theological views to be assumed based on a work of fiction I wrote, even if I may have intended that work of fiction to give others pause for thought.<BR/><BR/>Did you ask your question in class? I would have loved to hear Randall's answer.Tony Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05497055762329338990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-19854708723349658782008-02-25T14:57:00.000-05:002008-02-25T14:57:00.000-05:00I was talking to my mom about this today at lunch....I was talking to my mom about this today at lunch. I differ in my theology from mainstream christianity in several key areas. I don't think they are going to hell for believing different than do I, and that is the point. I want to tell them about what I feel like Jesus's life, death, and resurrection mean for us, and how we should respond, but just because someone understands differently from me doesn't mean they aren't still worshipping the same God, and that he for some reason isn't pleased when they do the right things.mundiejchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17029540431840334762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-5236451392592497252008-02-25T12:55:00.000-05:002008-02-25T12:55:00.000-05:00Hi Phil,Yes I agree. I remember being struck by th...Hi Phil,<BR/>Yes I agree. I remember being struck by the same passage when I first read The Final Battle. I believe it more strongly now.<BR/><BR/>When Paul was writing his letters, he was often addressing the narrow mindedness of the Jews who believed that they had an exclusive key to God. He might as well be writing to the church of today. The prevailing thought is that we have the golden ticket to heaven, and that everyone else has lost out.<BR/><BR/>As Christians, we tend to be strongly against other religions without recognising that even though other faiths have different names for God, they still have faith and are seeking truth, so why would God not be real to them.<BR/><BR/>Your ref to Abraham and Melk is very significant because they both used different names for God, yet both recognised that God was real to each other. <BR/><BR/>I believe that Allah as worshiped by Muslims is the same God as we worship. We all come from the same Abrahamic root, so Allah and God must be the same.Brian Highthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07306357650551548310noreply@blogger.com