tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post116343100585415074..comments2023-11-05T04:01:05.199-05:00Comments on Phil Wilson's Blog: Treasures in HeavenPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163694633626620382006-11-16T11:30:00.000-05:002006-11-16T11:30:00.000-05:00I'm not talking about marketing the church, althou...I'm not talking about marketing the church, although I feel like that can really be a problem.<BR/><BR/>What I am talking about is marketing to a need that doesn't exist. It's the idea of creating a desire for something that really isn't necessary. For instance, this desire for a Playstation 3. That people MUST have it or somehow their lives are less than full. Or a desire for $200 torn jeans. I mean, seriously. That does strike me as immoral.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163557307016993602006-11-14T21:21:00.000-05:002006-11-14T21:21:00.000-05:00I don't think Phil is talking about marketing the ...I don't think Phil is talking about marketing the church, but rather the career knonw as "Marketing." In the early church, certain careers were unacceptable to engage in. Prostition, acting, and military service all come to mind (just a statement of fact, not a value-judgment).<BR/><BR/>In today's world, is marketing so wicked, so repulsive to the Gospel thta it can not possibly be redeemed or redeeming? That is the question. I would say "no," but I think a Christian would have to think very hard about his or her clients.<BR/><BR/>My father-in-law is selling a water purification process which can turn foul, salt water into fresh water without electricity. He is marketing it in India. Is his marketing guy in sin? I doubt it. However, if one is marketing yet another chocolate cereal, is that sin? Maybe. Good question, at least.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954413651635300181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163516177219889532006-11-14T09:56:00.000-05:002006-11-14T09:56:00.000-05:00I think in the analogy with prostitution I'd put m...I think in the analogy with prostitution I'd put marketing more in line with the process of beautification and attraction. Just as there's nothing wrong with a man or woman making himself/herself attractive for the signficant other, there's nothing wrong with making a product more attractive for a prospective client. A productive economy is going to pull more people out of poverty than our tithing on Sunday, so we should be loathe to discourage legitimate enterprise. After all, couldn't we condemn everyone from the person creating the raw materials to the person consuming the product--but how many people would that put out of job?<BR/><BR/>I'd no more condemn someone for being a marketer than for being a cosmetologist. All of us should do our jobs responsibly; as Dorothy Sayers says, "Good work done well." <BR/>--KennethKenneth & Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02046186907119011211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163450346798802302006-11-13T15:39:00.000-05:002006-11-13T15:39:00.000-05:00Someone at OC told me last week about how the chur...Someone at OC told me last week about how the church had come to acquire some of our new things in our building (yes, I'm being vague on purpose). I was struck by how "responsible" those purchases had been in light of what I assumed and I'm sure many others assumed to be true about how the church is spending money. But it would have been better, I think, to have gotten that info from someone like Doug or an MC or an elder addressing the congregation rather than in a "gathering room" conversation.Maliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08113268891801837789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163445190504717032006-11-13T14:13:00.000-05:002006-11-13T14:13:00.000-05:00Meredith:Interesting Point about Jesus.He's often ...Meredith:<BR/>Interesting Point about Jesus.<BR/>He's often a little more Black and White than people are comfortable with these days isn't he?<BR/>marketing as a word and concept carry baggage that I don't think the Bible deserves. Altough I bet I'm thinking of marketing and propaganda as being synonyms.<BR/>Love,<BR/>GB HoytGB Hoythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305484602935707261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163438686752249052006-11-13T12:24:00.000-05:002006-11-13T12:24:00.000-05:00I don't see this brother as being nearly as hard o...I don't see this brother as being nearly as hard on those who put riches ahead of obedience, as Jesus was, he gave them no chance to enter the kingdom, Marketing of the church is fine as long as we use the original billboard.(The Bible)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163436691679984582006-11-13T11:51:00.000-05:002006-11-13T11:51:00.000-05:00The concept of evangelism as marketing is somethin...The concept of evangelism as marketing is something I've been spending a lot of time thinking about because of Post-restoration podcasts. I've thought a lot of the same things this particular post talks about for a while, and it seems like marketing gets in the way of letting the church be the church. <BR/><BR/>So how can the church be informative without being marketive? Or are we so tied up with our culture of marketing that everything the church does will be seen as propaganda?GB Hoythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305484602935707261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1163435631149890952006-11-13T11:33:00.000-05:002006-11-13T11:33:00.000-05:00Wow.I left a career in marketing because I felt ve...Wow.<BR/><BR/>I left a career in marketing because I felt very convicted about what we were doing. <BR/><BR/>I have never heard <I>anyone</I> else mention it before.Kat Coblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01989208841608754591noreply@blogger.com