tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post114718118821346883..comments2023-11-05T04:01:05.199-05:00Comments on Phil Wilson's Blog: The Fake Test KeyPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-43326637301061860132006-12-29T14:10:00.000-05:002006-12-29T14:10:00.000-05:00This reminded me of my 10th (?) grade government/c...This reminded me of my 10th (?) grade government/civics class where we had a student teacher for a few months. His name was Ed Gressick. The last test he gave us had a matching section, and the letters spelled "EDGRESSICKLOVESYOU".<br /><br />I'm also reminded of a friend of mine who grew up in Franklin. He realized that the TV in his classroom was the same model as his family's TV at home. He would bring in the remote and very slowly increase the volume while the class was watching a video. Eventually the TV would be blaring, and the teacher would turn it back down to a reasonable level. Then my friend would start slowly turning it up again...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147377567425251742006-05-11T15:59:00.000-04:002006-05-11T15:59:00.000-04:00Well, Tony, here's the thing. I only assumed disho...Well, Tony, here's the thing. I only assumed dishonesty because I knew at that point how kids thought and what lengths several of them would go to for grades. <BR/><BR/>Was it unfair to assume that on all kids? Yes. But in assuming it, I ultimately protected the kids who didn't cheat. Would that work in the "real world" if police did it? No. <BR/><BR/>But as I informed my kids, my class was not a democracy; it was a benevolent dictatorship.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147357476509454212006-05-11T10:24:00.000-04:002006-05-11T10:24:00.000-04:00Great story Phil. The only thing that troubles me...Great story Phil. The only thing that troubles me a little is the assumption of mistrust.<BR/><BR/>And technically from a legal standpoint, this was entrampment. :-)<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tonyarnold.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Tony</A>Tony Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05497055762329338990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147245457887521892006-05-10T03:17:00.000-04:002006-05-10T03:17:00.000-04:00Yeah, Kat. That annoyed me too. That's why I only ...<I>Yeah, Kat. That annoyed me too. That's why I only asked about things that were important, whether the kids thought they were or not.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm sorry. I should have made it clear....<BR/><BR/>I wasn't saying you were doing the same thing. It's just that your story put me in mind of that story.<BR/><BR/>After all, none of us in the lit class were cheating. <BR/><BR/>I guess it all falls in the "clever teacher testing methods" category in my brain.Kat Coblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01989208841608754591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147234197310674912006-05-10T00:09:00.000-04:002006-05-10T00:09:00.000-04:00There are as many philosophies for testing as ther...There are as many philosophies for testing as there are teachers. Let's go back to the Socratic method. Will you lead us back there?Purgatory Penmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277261341796277853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147207704821970242006-05-09T16:48:00.000-04:002006-05-09T16:48:00.000-04:00good one. I wonder if anyone would have said anyt...good one. I wonder if anyone would have said anything about it (or turned in the cheaters) if you'd given them more time before letting them in on it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147198231975429602006-05-09T14:10:00.000-04:002006-05-09T14:10:00.000-04:00Yeah, Kat. That annoyed me too. That's why I only ...Yeah, Kat. That annoyed me too. That's why I only asked about things that were important, whether the kids thought they were or not.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11540149196113374329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147192478671180312006-05-09T12:34:00.000-04:002006-05-09T12:34:00.000-04:00sneaky-sneaky!sneaky-sneaky!Maliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08113268891801837789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147191913950518722006-05-09T12:25:00.000-04:002006-05-09T12:25:00.000-04:00I had a lit teacher who would throw test questions...I had a lit teacher who would throw test questions in about non-plot minutae to make sure you read the material thoroughly. To my mind it backfired though. No one was as interested in finding out the main plots and themes of the novels as they were in memorising stupid details. "Oooh. They're eating dinner. What food are they eating? It'll come up on the test."<BR/><BR/>This has always irritated me.Kat Coblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01989208841608754591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6821288.post-1147189449333480852006-05-09T11:44:00.000-04:002006-05-09T11:44:00.000-04:00That is so stinking cool.That is so stinking cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com